
Seminal choreographer David Gordon’s little-seen duet with his life/art partner Valda Setterfield, Times Four (1975), is reconceived by Wally Cardona, and performed alongside Molly Lieber, in the same SoHo loft space where David & Valda performed it 50 years ago.
The year before he died, David talked to Wally about doing Times Four, last performed in the 70’s and not seen in its entirety since. Of the 1975 version, the only fragments on record include a grainy video of some of it being taught in rehearsal, Valda’s handwritten notes of some of the score and a few still photos. Much of the material has no record at all. Now, three years later, Wally is in the studio with Molly, preserving and building on the 1975 fragments, imagining a Times Four for 2025.
Original 1975 Choreography
David Gordon
Original Performers
David Gordon & Valda Setterfield
Additional 2025 Choreography
Wally Cardona
Performers
Wally Cardona & Molly Lieber


A co-production of Pick Up Performance Co with WCV, Inc.
Premiere performances co-presented with New York Live Arts: OCT 22-25, OCT 29-30 & NOV 1, NOV 4-8, NOV 12-15 2025
WALLY CARDONA & MOLLY LIEBER
TIMES FOUR / David Gordon: 1975/2025


WALLY CARDONA WITH JONATHAN BEPLER
a plump single-color bulb, or a dance
While being shut down at home a few years ago (literally and figuratively), a man received an unexpected gift in the mail.
A small red ball.
It seemed lonely on its own, so he picked up one of several small wooden mallets he owns from his time in Myanmar.
And the three of them – ball, man, mallet - headed into the studio.
He was curious about them and it felt like they had their own curiosity about him so they continued to work together.
It’s evolved into a rather refined relationship.
They organize, get lost in and re-find themselves.
they find relevance moment to moment and have no need for a singular resolution.
dance, setting and performance
wally cardona
music and performance
jonathan bepler
lighting
thomas dunn
A production of WCV, Inc.
Premiere performances presented at New York Live Arts: nov 14-16 2024
(stage version)
WALLY CARdona with jonathan bepler
a plump single-color bulb, or a dance


dance, setting and performance
wally cardona
music and performance
jonathan bepler
PRESENTED in the gallery space of fondation cartier, paris, FR, as a part of nomadic nights and matthew barney's exhibit, secondary: june 10, 2024
(gallery version)
on the making of times four / david gordon:1975/2025
times four score (1975) notes by valda setterfield

